Comments on: Twins want Ellsbury part of the deal

By: Marcel

Marcel — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:38:40 +0000

“Deals should be painful for both sides, like the Beckett deal.”

The main diffrence being that they had to make a deal for a frontline pitcher at that point. Now, they don’t. So why should they give up anything that be construed as painful when it’s unneccessary.

Also, Masterson projects more as a dominant setup guy than he does as any kind of starter. Which would probably be more valuable to the Sox anyway. They could have a Masterson/Delcarmen/Papelbon configuration at the end of games for years and not have to worry about overpaying for veteran middle relievers.

By: jim

jim — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:31:17 +0000

or Bill…..

By: jim

jim — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:29:37 +0000

Rob,

I’m hearing the same thing as Mike above–Lester, Crisp, Masterson, Lowrie. If you follow the propects, that’s somewhat painful. Masterson has a decent chance of being Carmona. Lowrie could become Pedroia. Deals should be painful for both sides, like the Beckett deal. If they don’t blink, and the Twins back off on Ellsbury, let’s make the deal. Santana at 7/130? It’s worth a shot.

If they can keep Clay, Jacoby, Bowden, Anderson, etc., this is a no-brainer.

By: Lance C. Dallaire

Lance C. Dallaire — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:05:19 +0000

Jacoby for Santana?
No way.
A young, promising star for an aging athlet?
Didn’t the Red Sox learn anything from the gabbard for Gagne trade?
Say it ain’t so; Theo?
Do not trade Jacoby. Period.

By: Scott in Lowell

Scott in Lowell — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:30:52 +0000

I hate to say it, but part of the reason I would do this deal is to screw the Yankees. I know you’re not supposed to operate like that, but just look at the potential starting rotations of each team with Santana on the Sox instead of the Yanks. It’s ridiculous.
As long as we don’t have to give up Ellsbury, I hope they do it. It’d suck to lose Buchholz, but Santana IS what we hope he can become. Lester is a really nice story, but I don’t have faith he’ll be anything more than a #3 on a decent team.

By: jim - red sox nation west

jim - red sox nation west — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:17:53 +0000

Bookem Danno!!

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:38:40 +0000

The rumour today is that it will cost Crisp+Lester+Masterson+Lowrie

PULL THE TRIGGER THEO!
You get to add Santana while keeping your two best prospects? Sign me up! Ellsbury is Major League ready now, as is Buchholz. The farm system is rich enough that you still have other upper echelon prospects in Bowden and others.

By: Colin

Colin — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:47:45 +0000

I don’t blame the Twins for asking for Ellsbury, but the Red Sox should not trade him under any circumstances. Giving up several prospects and stars for Santana is a move that a desperate team like the Yankees should make. It’s not for a team in a position of strength like the Red Sox.