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There have been a couple of new developments in the story of the Portland, Maine, School Committee’s allowing a middle school health clinic to hand out birth control pills to students without parental notification.

In response to public outrage over this scandal, the committee will consider allowing parents to consent to their children’s use of the health center’s services while opting out of the birth control program. At the same time, opponents of the birth control plan have begun a drive to recall committee members who voted for it.

Adults who do not have enough sense to see that it’s wrong to offer birth control medication to children 11 to 13 years old without their parents’ consent aren’t responsible enough to serve on an important public board such as a school committee.

And the Portland area’s district attorney has brought up another salient fact for these dim bulbs to ponder: It is against the law in Maine for anyone to have sex with a child under age 14. The health clinic has no say in the matter. So when a 13-year-old comes into the clinic and says she wants the Pill so she can have sex, clinic operators must report to law enforcement.

That’s sure to outrage those who believe that matters of “health” trump all other concerns. These are the same folks want to hand out free syringes to junkies because its “healthier” for them to shoot up with clean needles. The fact that it is a crime for someone to inject themselves with illegal drugs never enters their minds.

It’s a crime in Maine to have sex with someone under 14 — even if both parties to the sex are of the same age. Now, it’s not likely that a prosecutor would take to trial a case involving two 12-year-olds having sex. But that’s a law enforcement decision, not one for health clinic administrators.

We are a nation of laws, not health policies. If people don’t care for the fact that it’s against the law to have sex with 12 year olds, then try changing the law. (Good luck winning support for that effort!) But ignoring the law is not an option.

  • jacrlsn
    You are 100%, without equivication, right, Mr Johnson.
  • Tennis Lilly
    Ken

    While I agree that a school health center shouldn't be giving birth control pills (or any other prescription medication) to middle school students, I have to ask: if we are a nation of laws, not health policies, and ignoring the law isn't an option, is it then ok to ignore public health in the name of strict compliance with the law? Isn't a health care providers first duty to the health of the patient?
  • jacrlsn
    Dear Tennis Lilly:
    You must be the person who thought up the euphemism "Undocumented "to describe Illegal Aliens.
  • Tennis Lilly
    Jim,
    Now see...THIS is what's wrong with political discourse today. I don't take issue with Ken’s position that middle schools shouldn’t hand out birth control pills, I have concerns with how he got to that position. A health care provider’s first duty is to the health of the patient, not the law (in my opinion and in the opinion of several medical professionals I know). This is not a trivial matter and is worth talking about. Instead of taking the time to delve into this you attack me. Sadly, this is an affliction that is well distributed along the length and breadth of the political spectrum.

    Clearly you are a conservative and clearly I am a liberal. Let’s try to move on from that.
  • jacrlsn
    I would be very happy to move on, however before you can get past some hurdles, you have to know where you have been. It is not the law vs health debate that you might have us believe. What is unhealthy, is that 11-14 year olds are having sex, hence the neeed for birth control. What we need to be doing is to teach our children to tell right from wrong. We need to teach them that the world is not all gray, that as a matter of fact most of it is really black and white, right and wrong.
    If you took my remark to be a personal attack, then all I can say is "If the shoe fits, put it on."
    I'm beginning to believe that it is not only the kids that need to be taught.
    If you believe this is a liberal vs conservative debate, I feel sorry for you.
  • Tennis Lilly
    OK well...first of all, I agree that children that young shouldn't be having sex. I said, "I agree that a school health center shouldn’t be giving birth control pills (or any other prescription medication) to middle school students". I'm not sure what part of that you don't understand.

    Second, my issue with Ken and his argument isn't whether middle school aged children should be having sex, or whether school health centers should be dispensing medication without parental consent/notice. We all agree on that. My concern is more about HOW he got to that position. I'm sure that you, Ken and plenty of people who self-identify as "conservative" don't think issues of health and sexuality should even be discussed in public schools. I think that gets to the heart of the matter. As a parent, I'm responsible for the care, protection and upbringing of my children. While I clearly have rights as a parent, I don't own my children. I don't get to decide everything about what they are taught or exposed to in school. And while I agree with the sentiment "they're not your kids", I also recognize that school will touch on many subjects over 12 years that parents may not be comfortable or capable of dealing with. That doesn’t mean parents should be able to veto parts of school curriculum they don't like. That would be like allowing a conservative Christian student to skip parts of science courses that deal with evolution or allowing a radicalized Muslim to avoid history when talking about the holocaust.

    As far as the law is concerned, the health of the patient is the providers first concern. You see this with rape victims. Treat the patient, worry about the legalities later. If a 14 year old sexually active girl thinks the cops are going to be called because she talks to the school nurse about birth control she not going to say anything and the opportunity to give her vital health information and provide a conduit to services she may need is lost. SHe then ends up another statistic, pregant, infected with an STD, maybe abused or raped. You won't stop teenagers from having sex by passing a law. This is nothing new. I'm 25 years removed from middle school but there were sexually active teens then and there always will be. This is a public health issue, not a legal one. Instead of trying to prosecute two horny 14 year-olds we should focus resources on teaching these kids to value and respect themselves and others and teach them how to make good decisions.

    As far as your personal attacks are concerned. Try dealing with what I say, not what kind of a person you assume I am based solely on my politics. I don't know you from a hole in the wall Jim, I'm not going to judge you. I'm trying to deal with what you're saying. I'd appreciate the same in return.
  • jacrlsn
    You say you agree with Ken on not giving birth control to this age group. You say you agree with me that Kids at this age should be taught they shouldn'y be having sex, but then all your words cast doubt on what you said you agree on. That what I don't understand. My wife and I raised three children who have turned out pretty darn well-they didn't always obey my guidance,but overall I have no complaints.
    You keep talking about personal attacks and how I don't know you and should deal with what you are saying, but you don't recognize that my remark about euphemisms was about what you said, not you personnally.
    With that said, I give up-I tried.
  • Tom Delaney
    To Jim Carlson:

    Maybe you have a problem with Tennis Lily castigating you as "personally attacking." I could care less about political correctness. Where I live, here in CA, which is just as blue a state as MA, we are red in the Northern portion of LA County aka the Antelope Valley and Lancaster to be more specific.

    We enjoy Tennis Lily's dissertations here and she's the butt of every joke, especially from the women.

    Tennis Lily has won the following two awards from the citizens here, !) The Non Compos Mentis and 2) Poster female for repeal of the 19th Amendment. And she won this award over Boxer and Feinstein.

    Since 1999, I have had my agreements and disagreements with Ken Johnson and have communicated my thoughts via email or fax. Which is the American way.

    TL does not know the difference between liberal and conservative. Liberals "feel" by emotion and conservatives "think" by utilizing common sense and logic.

    Just keep on trying, I know I will never give up.
  • bilge rat
    "While I clearly have rights as a parent, I don’t own my children. I don’t get to decide everything about what they are taught or exposed to in school."

    Are you kidding me?????

    If you don't "own" your children, then who does?
    Oh, I'm sorry, "it takes a village"....
    Give me a break....
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